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Day 13,485 - River Poo leads to Sewage at the Mic.mp3
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Hey again, Kevin here. Live 22.
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Well, it's supposed to be a beautiful day today.
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At least from a temperature standpoint, I actually had to find out the temperature for my daughter yesterday of today, the estimated temperature, and it was supposed to be like about 5960° today.
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But actually then now come to think about it, I did not stare at the part that tells you what the weather's supposed to be. You know, whether it's raining, clouding overcast, partly sunny, sunny, whatever.
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Torrential downpours.
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Knows.
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But it'll be 60, so it might be 60 and wet, or it might be 60 and sunny.
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Have no idea but.
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Thanks. Thanks for tuning in to the show this morning. I know most of you tune in here for my weather reports.
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But.
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Yeah. So I want to do just a brief podcast this morning.
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I did get a chance to listen to the Common Council meeting yesterday. That was from Tuesday, that was.
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Astonishing right, to say the least.
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So I'm gonna do brief comments on it and then I may pull up the the Council meeting.
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And do a play by play with it coming up here in the near future.
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But I'm not sure I'm debating on it.
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I think I said a lot.
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That kind of covered most of what these people were complaining about. And so I do have a few points, right, like, OK, you know, they had some, some, some Councilman from the nation, and they had some council and they had some Councilman from the city of Salmonca and.
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They had.
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From Salomenka and the nation show up and they had some residents from the city show up.
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And they kind of like everything that I talked about yesterday kind of justice, like, squelched almost all of their talking points because, like, let's say the city fixes all those issues that that they're having, right.
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You know well every so often.
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You know, every every major rain storm, there is a discharge into the river and it's, you know, variable from 20,000 gallons to the biggest 1 was estimated at 2,000,000 gallons which we talked about yesterday.
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Not.
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A huge.
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Like that's that's not. It's not the end of the world comparatively to how much actual sewage is in the sewer lines, which is 2%. We discussed that yesterday on average, it's 2% excluding during rain storms, at which point it is like a negative exponent percentage.
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You know, like it's it.
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It is so negligible, but then it's like OK, so.
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And then the water's dirty before it gets to Olean and it's the same amount of dirty before it leaves.
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Like, it's not our duty to clean the river at our portion because then the next guy's gonna dump.
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Or.
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So it's like what causes all that.
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So we'll be delving in deeper in the near future into that which, like I pointed out yesterday, you know the.
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The County Health Department, I believe, has all the documentation for that and I'm going to be delving deeper into that. Like, you know, the the fact that they like that, that farm runoff, but nobody wants to touch it because nobody wants to be a farmer like there's nobody.
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To be a farmer anymore. But we need farmers.
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What do they do?
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Incentivize.
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So what are they not going to?
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They're not going to hold farmers accountable for the fact that they fertil.
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Oil. And then when the rain hits the soil, all that biological matter ends up making its way into streams and tributaries, creeks and whatever.
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Then it goes to the Allegany.
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And then they're like, well, we found all this biological mass that does not belong to people or sea creatures in.
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The river, you know, so it's like.
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Mainly because a farm run off, but you know it's not really because of the 2% mixed in with billion gallons of rainwater, but and then diluted into a river that's already overly saturated because it's flooding out, right, so.
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But then so you take all that information, right?
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Then a lot of the concerns from.
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Residents of the nation.
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Of.
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People that live alongside the Ohio, as they call it, which in in Seneca means.
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Beautiful river.
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So it's but it's that's the like the you can smell it.
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You can see the turds floating down the.
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It's like you can see the poop floating down the river. Like, no, you can't.
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No you can't.
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When when it's flooding outside and it doesn't discharge, you can look in the river and you would think.
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That millions of people are pooping in it because it's all the mud turned up.
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Everything from washing from everywhere is just mixing.
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There's nothing stable at the bottom of that river.
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Because everything is just turbulating like you could lose your minivan and be in Mississippi in like a day. Like that's that's so to say that.
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Like when when the city is constantly discharged, it's like on a crisp, sunny day.
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Is no poop.
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The amount of like from from the city of Olean.
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And from all available metrics like we are in par on par with almost every other municipality.
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The lady in Salamanca at that meeting said that she's like salamanca's in in 99.9% compliance for not discharging in the river.
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It's like.
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Well, you're 1% responsible then too.
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And then she.
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We've never discharged the river. So how are you?
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Are you not 100% then?
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Like I don't understand that logic.
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Like it's everybody does it to an extent to a degree, it's inevitable.
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That's like making people not poop like. Oh, yeah, well, I'm such a good human.
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I practice and I eat this and I've got my diet tuned right in where I make like 1 little rabbit poop a day.
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My goal is to make no poop like that.
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Doesn't happen.
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It doesn't.
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Even if you try.
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And you know, I don't know.
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Just it's mind.
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These people like you, can smell.
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Have you ever taken a poop in the woods like you haven't been camping like you've ever been in a frat party?
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Like if somebody takes a poop somewhere and it's not locked inside of a house or in a bucket.
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Or something like that.
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Or in a pipe where it tubulates it.
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I don't know if that's a word to be late.
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It could be, but it like if you're in the woods and you take a dump in a bucket, right?
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You're, you know, you have a bucket available.
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And you go near.
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That bucket makes it smell worse than it normally would, but if you were to take a crap in the grass.
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You actually have to almost step in it.
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The same with dog poop.
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Else.
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Dog poop smells just as bad as human poop.
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The problem is that, like you don't notice until you step in it and you kind of like reopen it because it it dries out.
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Relatively quickly and it's aromatic.
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Smell the thing that propels into the air dissipates.
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States.
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And like so, what you're catching is like the, you know, the continuing of the biology.
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Once the outer layer it you know it's just.
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Like so if if you have to be right on top of a poop that's in the grass in front of you.
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How how can you smell it? Like half mile, 1/4 mile away in the river?
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Oh, I see the river over there.
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My God, you smell of poop.
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Like it doesn't happen.
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Doesn't happen.
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And it's just like, OK, so people are exaggerating.
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So OK, you know.
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That's my first.
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Then there's a crazy lady that comes up there with and like certifiably like her. And then all of her kids come up there and they're talking about how the city needs to stop dumping in the river because the same stuff the city's dumping in the river.
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Is causing their skin to burn when they turn the pipes out in their house.
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Like those are two different types of water.
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One's potable and one they're claiming is raw sewage.
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So like, there's a difference here, people.
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I just like we're not pumping river water directly into your house unfiltered.
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No municipality is.
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There are so many health standards, so even just to their claim about the potable water burning their flesh.
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Like I just I like.
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There's so many health standards and and different things that that a municipality has to jump through in order to provide potable water to its residents.
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Private or public sector, there's the requirements are high because water is important. Like we say that and that's why like they're making a mountain out of a molehill with this issue.
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It's.
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Like, yeah, should it be corrected?
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But then, like, you're still gonna have a filthy river.
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Still gonna have a river that kills the fish?
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During testing.
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Because.
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Because it's polluted from some other source, it's either being polluted up river, which would make most sense because it's negligibly the same from when before it hits.
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To after it hits Olean.
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Or it's that runoff that we talked.
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So I mean, like you're still not addressing that issue?
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Now it's all clean.
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Let's drink it then.
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They all get sick.
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Like.
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You didn't clean it.
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Didn't fix it, didn't fix the problem because that's the.
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The city of only in isn't your problem. Like I got cancer from doing this, this, this, this and this and you start naming like 15 different things and then you pick the thing that like is 1% likely to cause you cancer. And then you're like.
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Oh, that must be the.
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It's like it's not my diet. It's not the, you know, it's not the the asbestos.
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Would use to mix up in a bucket and smear on pipes. It's not the.
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Oh man, you could go into rabbit holes on that one.
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It's not the, it's not my exercise.
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It's not the fact that I'm sedentary most of my.
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It's not the fact that I sit next to a TV, you know, like 4 inches from my crotch. And then I wonder why I don't have.
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I'm infertile and I've got, like, not cancer like that.
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That's those are the things that cause cancer.
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Like you know, it could be this little 1%.
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It could be the fact that one time a lady who used to sit under an asbestos ceiling tile sneezed on me.
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And gave me the flu and it's like the flu transmitted like. No, no, most likely that's not the reason.
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Then that's kind. That's very similar to what the issue is.
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It's like it's so deluded that like it's it's probably it's it's less than it's it's infant.
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Infinitesimally small.
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The the the cause of river pollution, right?
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By the city of Olean's sewage discharge and it's like there's other municipalities that dump away more than we are.
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It's like we're on a consistent basis like and we're we're the bad guys, but.
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Oh well. So there was a gentleman there that that made a lot of sense.
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Made a lot of sense.
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You know, if you want to discuss this issue, let's sit down and discuss it.
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And he brings me into the next point. But he came to the public comment and he was an older gentleman.
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Name was Don white.
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And and Don seemed to make a lot of sense to me.
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Like you know what? I'll talk with that guy.
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That guy seems to be making a lot of sense.
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Talk with him.
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But then it also gets into the main issue that I have.
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When I was on the Council and we needed to get something done, you know what we.
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We reached out to people kind of like what I do on this channel, where I reach out to all these different professionals, you know, people from sewer plants all over the county, people from the DC, people from the health department, people from like, I talked to these people.
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Do my.
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I do my research and it's never always right. Like you. You read a paper by somebody, spent hours, hundreds of hours writing a dissertation on something. And it's like, yeah, but we're human.
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And we don't know.
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So like all the information you gathered could be like, you know, 90%, right?
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Know what I mean?
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It's like.
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But it's more educated than the average Joe, who has like 30 seconds watching a clip on YouTube of a council meeting like.
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What you do as a Councilman, you reach out to those municipalities and you say, hey, I have an issue with your municipality. Can we open a dialogue?
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Can we open lines of?
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Can we set a meeting for me and some of my councilmen to meet with you and some of your councilmen and your mayor and my President of of.
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You know, my chief. What?
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I don't how the structure.
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They had a president, Conrad Seneca, that that his letter was read, but he didn't make an appearance, you know, but it's like.
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I don't know how their council structure works.
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I know that they have elders and they've got.
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I don't.
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So there is where my knowledge is lacking on the nation, but it's one of those like you know, is it like more we have this figurehead and then we have the legislative body. And so like the figurehead stuff is like the chief and the elders.
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And they make more of our like religious, you know, cultural laws. And then we have more of the Council, that kind of handles, you know, code complaints and little things that the, you know, the the nation, the Seneca Marshalls will go handle, which is their police force.
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And they work, you know, in coordination with Salomonka PD and the sheriffs of Cattaraugus, you know, and it's one of those like, OK.
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But I mean, I'm just like.
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Reach out, reach out.
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You know, we, you know what Olean doesn't do. If we had a problem with salomeka, we don't go to their public comment.
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And justice start yelling at them, or even just like making points at.
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It's like you do that because you want to be in front of the paper and that is a that is a big contention with me like.
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Ask the.
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Ask the Council members.
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Ask them, and when I say, ask them. I don't mean go to the next public comment and speak because that's what you do when you want to be the squeaky wheel and no one's answering you. If you had. If they had made an attempt to reach out.
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The mayor, if they had made an attempt to reach out to the Common Council.
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I would say you know if they just got fell on deaf ears like.
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Like the guy from Cattaraugus Glen.
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If nobody responds to his emails, yes, then go to the Council meeting, right?
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Maybe you're saying the same thing and we're giving you the same.
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Or maybe we're giving you the answers that we have, but you're also not an elected.
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You're just a resident, so like they're probably going to treat your emails and phone calls a little bit differently than they would like.
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The chairperson of the Senate, like of their council like OK.
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Let's set a meeting.
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Let's sit down.
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Discuss it.
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Let's have conversations like, you know, I'd like to bring in my water and sewer expert.
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Like to bring in these people. OK, you know.
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And you non hostile, just I want to have a conversation.
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Do that by sending out an e-mail, a phone call.
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You know a text message if you.
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I'm just saying, like you do, that you don't have to do it.
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You.
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It doesn't have to be behind closed doors.
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Like you can say, hey, listen, you know the city of Olean or the the Seneca Nation could reach out to the paper and be like, listen, I've reached out to the mayor. I've reached out to the Common Council, the Council President.
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I've got a meeting set up. We've got a meeting set up. We're.
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You can let the people know that you have a meeting.
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Don't have to come across so, like, audaciously.
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And and the way you make initial contact makes it seem like you're throwing stones when you come to the stone throwing podium, which is really what it is.
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Don't go up there to like I want to thank the Police Department for doing a great.
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You never like typically hear that like you might hear it in the middle of somebody's rant against the city. And they'd be like, well, the fire department's really good.
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But the the streets.
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And you know, like you hear these rants and it's like you might, they might pepper in a comment, a compliment, but they they're really there to throw stones. And that is a stone throwing podium.
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If you're here for peace, if you're here to have a discussion, then you don't just go to the stone throwing podium and just like start.
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Zones of people because they're going to act defensively, which I don't blame them.
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You don't get your point.
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And they they can act defensively if they don't.
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But at least you're more justified when you're throwing stones because it's like, hey, man, I'm exercising every available option and you don't start with war, which is what that.
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That is the the war call, you know, like I'm showing up here to this podium to declare war. Like that's that's. I mean, if you want peace like Mr. Don White said.
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Then reach out. Reach out. I'm sure every any one of the councilmen would reply to your e-mail. Would would pick up your phone call if they didn't recognize the number and you left a voicemail. I'm sure they would return your call.
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They're not like, especially if you hold a position of authority and you're not like this, this crazy lady with her three sons that showed up.
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Two sons and a daughter. I don't want to.
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Don't want to biologically misgender somebody?
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They like.
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You don't show up you 'cause. Essentially, when you show up to that podium anybody who speaks that night gets lumped into the the, the, the body politic of it all like the.
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The.
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And what do you call?
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The the bike I like to think of it as Borg from Star Trek.
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The It's the collective right.
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You you become part of the.
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So now all of a sudden and then like and then the entire crowd applauding every single person who spoke even when they were up there talking about.
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They have scabs bleeding on their skull.
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Or their or how their wounds because of the smell from the sewer plant that they lived near.
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Like I'm sure it smells at the sewer plant like nearby. Like, but that's what you get when you live near a sewer plant.
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It treats sewage like they actually collect it.
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They screen out the good. You know what I.
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Like the the the the effluent water gets purified and sent out and then what's left is things digesting and stinking right.
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So you know and it's.
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As bad as you would surmise, but it does.
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Like then the kids like I have open wounds on my chest from my chest surgery and it's like.
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I mean like the open wounds on your chest are not getting like infiltrated by like that odor you smell at the sewer plant. Like you're not like, that's not the reason why you're it's just it's it's nonsense anyways.
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When you lump those people in, it hurts your 'cause. If you're trying to make a point, they just disarmed you like they just, like, took clips out of your gun.
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That's that. You you.
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That's why you also pick and choose who you bring with you for your.
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Speaking topic.
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You try to come in in a pack, so you say like OK.
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The beginning of.
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Here's the end of.
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Everybody who spoke here was, you know.
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You coordinate a little bit better, but and they didn't even do that.
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They just pay.
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They.
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They let the pepper, the crazies like pepper themselves in, and it's just like, disarmed your argument.
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But like and so then the only thing I go to listen to is like I'll listen to each individual at.
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Point because the collective doesn't make sense to me or the people that say you poop in the river. I live near the river.
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Can smell the poop from the river.
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Like, no, you can't.
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OK, you you know all these different arguments.
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Come to the.
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Come to the table if you think this is the issue and maybe you'll have a conversation with a city official who will point out all the things that I pointed on this channel that people refuse to listen to. People refuse to educate themselves on.
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That says, hey, you know we.
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Yeah. I mean, maybe you aren't 100% the problem, but we don't like the fact you're pooping the pool, you know, like, hey, OK, nobody wants nobody to poop in the pool.
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Accidents happen like let's you know, we'll work on remediating it.
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But we are not the direct cause of this, and so sitting down to the table at least having that discussion with officials and then at which point you can take meeting minutes and you can pass them along to the press and then the.
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You know, hopefully give people the true, honest story.
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At which point then you're like, oh, man, that's, you know, it's good to see the people coming like they're actually doing something and it's. But when all these other people are like, we're outraged and you don't return our calls, like, we didn't call like, you didn't call unless.
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Of you did call, at which point I would love to hear it in the comments below.
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Love you to e-mail me.
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Reach out to me.
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Cell phone is.
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Available.
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I really do highly recommend that that you know that we that we do sit down and have this conversation and I think it's gonna be more helpful than than not because just to continue to come up and throw stones at the Common Council is not helping.
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And it just propagates this like misinformation.
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I don't like using those terms, but I mean that's really what it is.
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It's it's uneducation like people. There needs to be a good PR. I mentioned that yesterday, but.
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That said, gang.
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It's half the time that we normally do, but we we'll catch you tomorrow.
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