Life22: Moral Framework & Decision Making (Day 13,564[1])

Day 13,564(1) - Moral Framework & Decision Making.mp3
Transcript
00:00:06 Kevin
It is a beautiful Saturday morning. Good morning, gang.
00:00:11 Kevin
It's Kevin. And like promised, I told you guys that I would be giving you guys some updates and some different things that I wanted to talk about that were old news.
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And so here we are. You hear the birds, chevin. The birds want to hear it. Birds want to hear it. So.
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Where are we going with this first one? The first one is the ridiculousness of the Internet and peoples.
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Because this will be like A2 parter, I'll probably release the other one like later tonight or tomorrow.
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But the first part is and and they all stem together. Is people's ridiculous attachment to animals, and I think it it it all stems from like bad decision making it and it it sounds from.
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UM.
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Kind of like our the moral fabric of our society deteriorating, right? So like, way back when you, you know, you had a mother and a father that would take you to places like churches that would, you know, teach you.
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Things that you probably.
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Should know and like have a moral code to live by your whole life like, you know, like human life is like.
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Very important.
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And so that's why, like people that agree with capital punishment like yours truly, when you do very heinous acts or you disregard human life like you've now null and voided the regard we should have for your human life. So things like that like, and this one got me the other day because I was thinking about it. And it's like, like, people get angry. They're like, oh, there's people from other countries coming over here.
00:01:54 Kevin
Here's The thing is like when you have a value for human life, then it's not just like.
00:02:00 Kevin
Humans are very tribal in how we like how we evolved and so.
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Life is based on the two different things, right? So it's like having those more and we'll get back to this, I guess is the moral value.
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You know, like your decision making, like making good decisions. Well, the good decision making has to come from somewhere, right? It comes from experience, and it comes from, like moral groundedness like where you were, where your morality lies, like, where you determine as good and evil. Right. And that's you. Basically what you're taught through experience, right, experience growing up, things like that. So now let's put a pin in that.
00:02:33 Kevin
As a country.
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And this is where the tribalism comes in. As a country, yes, we we value human life.
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In our.
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The lives of people of our country.
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Are more important to us, right? You still have to have a hierarchy, right? So within the category of like all other creatures.
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Humans, we put humans above all other creatures, but then within that category, let's zoom in. All right, now, in here, it's us, right. You're always going to have that self preservation, right. And so. And in that category of like us. Right. Like you'll as a man, I'm going to put my kids and my wife over top of my life.
00:03:15 Kevin
And that's also why, like men systemically have.
00:03:20 Kevin
I gotta get that word out of my vocabulary. I just hate that word. It's been done to death anyways.
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Typically, men will go and die in war. Men will typically go out there and.
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They'll typically go out there and die in war and can I help you?
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Yeah, maybe what we're gonna do one in a little bit later. OK. Let me finish this one up, alright.
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Thanks kiddo.
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In just a little bit, OK.
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Shut that door, please.
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So anyways, that's that's why men will go off and.
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Die in war, they're willing to sacrifice their life because there is a greater good. There's something in the male genome that has that, you know, like I'm willing to die to protect this. You know, whether it's, you know.
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The the woman in offspring in his cave or whatever. Like, there's there's something in the DNA that does that where the mother will protect the offspring.
00:04:24 Kevin
You know what I mean? More so than maybe the male will. But like and then they're also more nurturing. So there's a lot of different things and I understand that people say well, you know.
00:04:35 Kevin
You know men. Men can do that too. Yes, men can. Men can be more nurturing, right? And then there is. There are studies that show that, like, you know, let's say the mother died in childbirth and the father's taking care of the child, right, or whatever the circumstances are, where the father is just around more. There's a there's a type of chemical that's given off. And it's actually also produced by the male. And it's it's kind of like.
00:04:56 Kevin
When a woman is pregnant, she starts to lactate and produce milk, right? Like it's this thing is given off based on what the role is this person's doing and it.
00:05:04 Kevin
Makes from what I gather, it makes them more like nurturing, but it's also like it's.
00:05:10 Kevin
It's a byproduct of being around small children, right? Like that's. But it's it's biologically necessary. So and it's not something that changes their gender or anything crazy like that. But yeah, yes. But on a on a typical basis and that's why they believe that men commit suicide more often and suicidality is higher in men.
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Because we also have that proclivity to go.
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Out and just.
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Die for work. We also do **** **** like, you know, we'll like, jump off a roof into a pool and then we miss and we, you know, get the capitated on the pool wall. Like that's that's that's what happens with men because we we take these risks we we also have that like, you know lack of self preservation.
00:05:53 Kevin
For the greater good right, like taking your your genetic code and prolonging it by dying to defend the the remainder of your genetic code, the future of your genetic code in the offspring, and the the spouse.
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By dying for.
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By dying for by like by dying to, you know, to protect them from a predator, predator comes in and you die while killing the predator.
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Or maybe you die trying and you know the predator gets everybody. But I mean the the the thought was there, right? That was the process to to, to expand the species.
00:06:27 Kevin
That all said so there. There is that caveat right there in like self preservation, right? Like so most people are gonna consider themselves within that category of us. As Americans, we consider ourselves more important with. Like I said, those little caveats of like, well, you know, men will typically put their spouse or their offspring.
00:06:44 Kevin
In front of their own life. But then there's like, you know, your neighbor.
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And people, you know like and. And you start getting your way down there to where it's like it's, you know, it's you, it's your neighbors or it's your friend. It's your like nuclear family, it's your, you know indirect, you know, an immediate family. And then you have like you have all these things it branching out right from from family to community to to to.
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To city to.
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County to state all these different things that you're you know what I mean? Like, but like you can't.
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If if you if they're, you know you can't, you're not gonna. Most people won't hold like a stranger's life over a friend's life. But if the chips are down and you're not, like, sitting there struggling with the decision to go save a friend over some stranger.
00:07:28 Kevin
I mean, and those are moral quandaries that people battle with all the time. But for the rough framework of it, most people are going to, you know, save a friend if if you see somebody in danger in maybe you're very passive, you or.
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You're not assertive enough. You might not. You might not get involved, you might think, oh, man, if I go save that person, I may die. And and that's part of that self preservation in the hierarchy. So we're still sticking with the framework here and that's why, like it always irks me when people are like, well, they're human too. If you're sending, if you're deporting people home or if you're.
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If you're.
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I don't know if if there's people like, you know, if we were Israeli and you had Hamas, like blowing up our like our food supplies and trying to kill and kidnap our people and take hostages like.
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There is that mindset that, like, listen, we have somebody that is trying to threaten our human lives.
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They are within this category of greater hierarchy.
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And it's like and it's and it's in a whole category, right? Like US lives. Right. So like, if somebody was doing this to the US like, we wipe out an entire other nation like, that's that if if one person comes into our country and kills an American citizen like that should be boom annihilation of the entire population of that category like.
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Uzbekistan decides to start sending a few terrorists. It's like.
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Tara, who's back to stand like you're no longer on the map. Like that's and that's the mentality people like have to have. And there there's too many people operating like in this.
00:09:04 Kevin
Non self preservation way where they're like. Oh well, it's it was OK. It was just one guy.
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And then like we have to support him in prison for the rest of his life while he already, like, you know, killed ten Americans or something. You're like. No, no, that that capital punishment for that guy and like retribution for the place that sent him. Like, that's nobody seems to. I don't know that, that, that part irks me. And so, like, I'm taking that same mentality.
00:09:29 Kevin
Right.
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Like I'm taking that same mentality and going forward and saying, OK, well.
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The people that are kind of backwards, right, where our moral fabric has been like, I don't know if somebody flipped the blanket on our moral fabric, you know, our moral fabric makes this giant cloth and we flipped it upside down.
00:09:49 Kevin
And so now all of a sudden, people have more respect for like dog and cat lives than human lives. And that's where all this went. This is where this like, 10 minute rant took us.
00:10:00 Kevin
But it's a basis on things that I think that a lot of people.
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Should understand. I don't know understand why you think like I have a dog.
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And I love my dog.
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But if my dog.
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Bit not even killed my dog killed one of my kids. Like dog dead. That's it. Like you're not gonna stop me like he's dead.
00:10:22 Kevin
And then I have to live the rest of my life with a dead kid, right? And I'm not going to grieve. 1 moment over that dog. That's. That's it. Like. And I and right now, he's like one of my really good. He's a he's a friend, right? He's a he's a companion, right. He's a good. He is still in the hierarchy.
00:10:39 Kevin
Like he is under.
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Human life, and he's well under my wife and my children. He is a member of our household. Now, if somebody comes in and tries to hurt my family and he did, he attacks a human life to defend him and someone tries to kill that dog. I will defend that dog's life because in given the circumstances, that person was forfeiting their human life.
00:11:02 Kevin
By trying to cause harm to our human lives, and that dog is a tool at that point. He is like my gun. You don't dismantle and liquidate my gun because it was used in the defense of my family. Right? So different circumstances. If my dog is just like La di da da da in the backyard and some kid jumps the fence, well, even then.
00:11:22 Kevin
Like there's no reason the kid should be jumping the fence. That's that's. You know, we don't know what the the intent is of the kid, right. Is he 15? Is he 9, you know? Anyways, a bad example good example is like my dog.
00:11:35 Kevin
He's in the backyard. I don't have a fence and he, like, runs off onto the sidewalk and bites a child or bites a 16 year old or bites a a 28 year old or an 89 year old man. He just goes out there and just bites somebody. Well, guess what? I'm not gonna argue when they come and they say, hey, we need you to surrender all the records. Yes. OK. Well, hey, we need you to, you know, this is the.
00:11:55 Kevin
This is the first time it happens. Maybe there's an exemption, but if they just came to me on the first time and said, hey, we just have a no tolerance policy and your dog's gotta get put down like I get it, I get it.
00:12:06 Kevin
If they did that, if my.
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I don't know got rabies and decided to do the same thing like I'm going to defend that a little bit more like, OK, like the kid shouldn't be biting people, right? Like there should be more of a hierarchy in a process there, like 3 strikes and you're out. But even then, yeah, no, I mean, that's there. There are these different things. And but there's a lot of people that are like, no, they can't kill that dog. They can't kill the dog.
00:12:31 Kevin
And you got a 90 year old man who got his throat ripped out by a pit bull. And you're like I he can't. They can't. The guys in ICU fighting for his life. And like if there's people on the Internet.
00:12:40 Kevin
That are like defending the dog.
00:12:43 Kevin
Or more specifically, the breed.
00:12:46 Kevin
The breed and then it's like and then that's where the argument comes in. It's like, great, we can have these discussions. The problem with the Internet and doing it when you're just doing it over text and they're just little quips if you're not writing like an article, an essay to describe your point.
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And.
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Then like I feel like a lot of times people's points like pithy is not the way to do the Internet. If you are quick with little quips like they're great for like humor and whatever, make you think.
00:13:16 Kevin
But they're not how you win arguments he win arguments is to sit down and write the thoughts out. If you're going to be in a text based format, and if you're going to be a text based format, that's how you have to do it. You have to sit down and write all this **** out and and then when people reply to you with like 2 sentence you're wrong. Like OK well great.
00:13:37 Kevin
Nander thaw like you, you're not like you're not concepting this. You're not perceiving this concept like you don't seem to get it. Like I'm giving you exact arguments. You just saying I'm wrong is not a way to win an argument. And that's where the Internet comes in because it becomes more of like 2 guys sword fighting over a urinal. And that's really what the Internet is a cesspool.
00:13:58 Kevin
Sometimes, and I know that's where you get the show and so hopefully my show floats on the top of like the urine pile that is, you know, the urine pool that is the Internet and you're just like, oh, look at that treasure.
00:14:09 Kevin
Or or I'm sunk to the bottom and I'm in there and I am treasure. And so you have to swim through.
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The urine to.
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To to get this great content.
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Which don't don't. Don't ever think that there is not a dragon. You have to fight for treasure. OK, so.
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And in this case the the the Dragon is is the urine pool that is the Internet. So.
00:14:35 Kevin
This 15 minute rant now is all for me to be in self-defense or in defense of not self-defense in defense of.
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An officer here locally, right like this is. This is a. This is a local politics show as well as other things, right? We just went.
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Into a whole.
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A whole philosophy on how I make decisions right, because in order to make good decisions, you have to have moral grounding and you have to have a lot of this framework. And my parents didn't send me to church. But.
00:15:08 Kevin
He said my kids.
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At.
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Church. They have way better moral fabric than I do. And I had to learn and start to, like, loom, my own moral fabric based on what I learned about the world and making these judgments and and preconceived notions and throwing some out and keeping others and and. And I think that's where a lot of our problems in society come from, is that nobody really pays attention.
00:15:30 Kevin
To the fact that like if you raise kids wrong, they you know what I mean? Like and.
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We.
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You know, some of us survive. Some of us make it, and then we can hopefully hone and guide and and take some of that knowledge and bestow it on our children and send them to places where the knowledge has been, you know, percolating for thousands of years and.
00:15:48 Kevin
They can just get a head start. It's like.
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You know, reading, you know, getting the Cliff notes on, like, books, they could spend their whole lives reading. And this they just read or learned one book.
00:16:00 Kevin
And they they just jumped 20 bucks ahead.
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What does that mean for their children? Right, like.
00:16:07 Kevin
So anyways.
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It's a local show, so it's partially a local show, so I wanted to to dive into the the often where a cop was looking into was doing a welfare check on a.
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On a on a, on a person in our, in our city and the dog got out and.
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The.
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The dog, the dog bit the cop.
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And I've I've done my homework, I've I've watched all the **** matching the the sword fighting on the Internet. It's like it's it's all done because there's all these people that, oh, there it is, a cop, a cop killing the dog. They should kill the cop. Like, do you see that **** on the Internet? And you're like, no, no, like no dot.
00:16:56 Kevin
Like dog growls at cop. Shoot it. That's like, that's my philosophy. Because like, if you see a threat in front of you.
00:17:03 Kevin
I don't care if it's somebody considers it their family like you shoot it. If it's, that's that's the thing. Like if the if my dog was running off onto the sidewalk to bite somebody, or even if it was just super happy. But the person couldn't tell and they perceived it as a threat and they shot the dog.
00:17:18 Kevin
I'm not faulting them because.
00:17:21 Kevin
Like they didn't know, they didn't know and their their non knowledge of the situation like Oh well that that's just that's just the dog. That's cool. It's our dog. He's super happy. Even though he charges the fence because he's super excited to see you.
00:17:36 Kevin
But if you didn't know that and there wasn't a fence there to physically protect you, and you just saw this dog coming at you and you couldn't tell, like, that's not like the same situation as negligence. So the law is no excuse. Like, no, no, no. This is negligence of the dog coming at you, that he's a happy dog is not is is an excuse to shoot the dog because if you didn't know if you could.
00:17:58 Kevin
There were no precursors. The dog wasn't like.
00:18:02 Kevin
And just and he's just bolting, you know? He's gonna. Yeah, I'm bang sorry.
00:18:09 Kevin
Pull my knife out like bro.
00:18:11 Kevin
It up. I'm about to ship you like that's.
00:18:15 Kevin
So anyways, let's back up. Let's back up to two weeks. Three weeks from this incident. Maybe it was a month.
00:18:23 Kevin
It's the day before Good Friday I had off of work. I was we were. We were doing some remodels on apartments and things like that and we were doing some work and I stopped by my house to grab some paperwork. And I met two of the guys there and they hopped in my truck and we were rolling out to go to A to A to A to an apartment.
00:18:43 Kevin
And we get up on the side of the road and I didn't talk about this. I wasn't going to talk about this, but it's not. It took until like these little incidences that caused it for me to talk about it.
00:18:55 Kevin
So we roll up on the side of the we we're we're driving down southbound on the 200 block and N 6th and we get to the intersection of W Washington St. and the 100 block and N 6th. And so we pull up and there is a there is a lady trying to pull a dog off of.
00:19:13 Kevin
Her dog.
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And.
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Like, I'm like guys, get ready to jump out and I pull up the side of the road and both of these guys are.
00:19:27 Kevin
22 to 28 you know what I mean. Like, there's there's two of them in there, and. And there's me 37. Right. So like, just, you know, males under 40 / 20.
00:19:38 Kevin
And we, we pull right up on the side of the road and those 2 bolt out to try to get a handle on the situation. As I put the car in park and jump out as well. So I'm I'm shortly behind them. One of the kids has one of the guys, the younger one has.
00:19:51 Kevin
Has the the aggressing dog who's clamped on. It's a pit bull and it's clamped on which.
00:19:57 Kevin
The only reason I bring up it's a pit bull is not for its aggression.
00:20:02 Kevin
Or its intelligence level. It is because they are bred to have a like.
00:20:10 Kevin
Their genetic code gives them a huge like jaw muscle.
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That, like you physically have to use like leverage techniques to get it open.
00:20:21 Kevin
Or somebody on the Internet said put it, slit your thumb in its and that was after the fact. I didn't even I wasn't going there, so I didn't even think about it.
00:20:31 Kevin
So we jump out of the car, one guy's got the the the aggressing dog in a in 1/2 Nelson. The other one is keeping the ladies other dogs away. And then there's another stray running around and he's like trying to keep them at Bay. The ladies trying to like, hold on to her dog and kind of pull it back a little bit.
00:20:49 Kevin
I am got my fingers in this pitbulls mouth and I cannot break it.
00:20:57 Kevin
So I run back to my truck. I'm like.
00:21:00 Kevin
Keep this. I gotta get something and I get in the back of the truck and I grab this hammer that my guy George had left, we found it outside like 2 days before it was in the rain. He left it on one of my trailers, so I was like, oh, this is George's hammer. And so I tossed in my truck. I'm like, I'm going to make good use of this hammer. It's. But it's not going to rust in the rain. It's my buddy George. And two days later, that hammer.
00:21:20 Kevin
Like saved a dog's life. And so I put.
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The hammer claws into the dog's mouth and pried open.
00:21:28 Kevin
And the dog opened up, and then once we got the dog to release, the younger guy pulled the dog back and that dog was the hat. And I just want to take a little side note here. That dog was.
00:21:38 Kevin
The happiest dog he was.
00:21:39 Kevin
Just like as soon as you got him loose, you could not tell when he had when he was latched.
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Onto another dog.
00:21:49 Kevin
You could not tell when he was latched onto another dog that he was.
00:21:54 Kevin
Can I help you, Lennox?
00:21:56
Home.
00:21:58 Kevin
In just a little bit. Dude, I've. I've got to finish this one, OK?
00:22:02
All right.
00:22:04 Kevin
I'll be out in just ohh. You wanna grab your iPad, grab your iPad for a few minutes, OK.
00:22:15 Kevin
I love you too, Bob. So.
00:22:20 Kevin
This dog is the happiest dog you've ever seen, right? But you could not tell when he was clamped on to the other dog's throat, closing off its airway, and you could see that dog. It was like a terrier or some kind. It was a black, shaggy, curly haired dog, and his eyes were like starting to turn Gray and glaze.
00:22:34 Kevin
Over because it was like.
00:22:36 Kevin
And you couldn't.
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Anyways. Uh.
00:22:42 Kevin
I pride and that dog was just he. He released and he was the happiest little dog and ladies in panic mode. We've got this dog restrained. He's trying to go like, meet his friend. So it just goes to show you I think the dog's intelligence level and social skills were pretty poor because he thought he was playing with the other dog. And these dogs are just so massively strong.
00:23:01 Kevin
It's like when Lenny plays with the mouse.
00:23:04 Kevin
In of mice and men, and I think I killed it, George, and then he starts petting and he keeps dead mouths throughout the entire story. Right. Like that's it. Some people are too strong or some creatures are too strong for their own good. And even if they have goodwill, intent, like and then come to find out, like so, then the guy on the truck pulls up alongside of us. And he's like, hey, anybody need what's going on here? We're like.
00:23:26 Kevin
There's an emergency vet clinic, like a block away. Can you take this lady and her dog to the emergency vet clinic? Like a block away while we continue to hold these dogs off?
00:23:36 Kevin
The lady lived nearby, so my one guy brings the other dogs over to her house and the neighbor comes down. Who owns this dog? And I know this neighbor. I didn't know the dog. I just knew. I know the neighbor.
00:23:50 Kevin
And I like the neighbor. I get along with the neighbor. It's just one of those like. But it's, you know, like.
00:23:57 Kevin
I hope this doesn't cause any ill will, but like.
00:24:01 Kevin
Had that prying technique not worked, the flat side of the the hand, the nail hitting side of the hammer, would have started to go into the dog's Dome right to release it, because like, you're killing this dog. So now you're an aggressor. I don't care how happy you are, you're the aggressor, and that would have been my next step. Like damage the dog to make him open up, like cause him blunt trauma.
00:24:20 Kevin
Like that was and it was gonna be light at 1st and then progressively getting worse if it had not right. Like there is a, there's a method to it.
00:24:26 Kevin
And that's what I know. What like people that have that have pit bulls, they tell me about it and like, no, you gotta punch him on the top of their head because then they know they've done something wrong because they're they're so thick skulled that they like, just smacking him. He's just no, like, that doesn't work. And so that's what I've gathered from all the Pitbull owners that I own. I've never owned a Pitbull. I don't think I would like to.
00:24:47 Kevin
And so that said, we've got these like if that didn't work like eventually like the dog.
00:24:56 Kevin
Like may die because I'm gonna keep hitting with a hammer to release it from the other dog.
00:25:01 Kevin
Luckily, it went with the first excuse, right? Or the first the first attempt, but.
00:25:09 Kevin
Like.
00:25:12 Kevin
And this is for a stranger and her dog. Like I didn't have to get involved, but I did. And that's going back to the initial part about, like, male proclivity for protecting others, right, that that you just, we have that in our D.
00:25:24 Kevin
OK.
00:25:27 Kevin
And I'm like, like I said, there's still there. That doesn't mean that women don't do that. It's just it's more predominant. So if you so if like going back to this dog situation.
00:25:37 Kevin
And seeing all the comments about this officer Ensel situation.
00:25:44 Kevin
With that dog and this is I thought about this like later that day, watching all the comments on Facebook of like the lady who posted this to thank us because my wife had tagged us in it and I was like I I didn't I I was. We weren't doing it for the recognition we were doing it because we were there in the moment and we were saving. We were doing so.
00:26:00 Kevin
Something good. And so that's why I didn't bring it up till now. But then I watch all these other things.
00:26:06 Kevin
And it's all about good decision making. So if we have a fleet of people in our Community that are doing good things, if you can maybe start mending the moral fabric of our society where there's tons of people making good decisions, hopefully, like I do, I would assume that the decisions that I make are good, right. And so I'm. But if other people.
00:26:25 Kevin
Can make similar decisions and can act in the moment and can have that velocity. I you know, that's what I hope. I don't. I'm not trying to sit here and toot my horn, but the decision making that what I would have made if this lady.
00:26:38 Kevin
If this dog was clamped onto this lady in anywhere, her throat, her arm, her leg.
00:26:43 Kevin
There would be no putting the hammer gingerly in the dog's mouth and starting to cry. It would claw side down. Not the not the nail hitting side, and it would have just, I would have bludgeoned that dog to death just to save that Lady. Like I don't care if the dog was just.
00:26:57 Kevin
Like put a couple teeth holes in the lady. The dog dead like you attack human like you're dead. Like that's.
00:27:03 Kevin
It that is.
00:27:04 Kevin
It and people on the Internet are going nuts. I'm sure people are gonna go nuts when they watch this video, but guess what? You have to watch 30 minutes of it for me to tell you that.
00:27:11 Kevin
I mean, you, you you probably know where it's going, but you gotta wait 30 minutes just to find this just to find this part. Kevin kills dog. Kevin's gonna kill a dog like, no, I'm gonna kill a dog in the moment when the scenario is correct.
00:27:23 Kevin
I'm not going out there. I'm not just like on the hunt bloodthirsty for dogs.
00:27:27 Kevin
If that dog was going after that.
00:27:29 Kevin
Woman's dog dead like.
00:27:33 Kevin
As instantly as I could get instant out of that like sorry.
00:27:37 Kevin
If I hit the dog the first time and wounded it and it let go and we could restrain the dog, then dog wouldn't die. We'd leave it to the authorities to handle.
00:27:45 Kevin
But if that dog was refusing to let go and we couldn't get it off the lady's ankle or something like I it it, it would be until it was lifeless like that would be.
00:27:53 Kevin
That would have been my protocol like and in the moment. Sometimes you can't. It's it's difficult to gauge and like maybe the dog released right before it, you know, like it's just those are things that happen and that's why you have to give like that's why nobody like people need to understand that you have to give like cops grace because they do this on a daily basis and it's hard to live in that moment.
00:28:14 Kevin
And then you have like the entire fear. So a week later I run into.
00:28:21 Kevin
Another officer that I know and he.
00:28:23 Kevin
Was on. This was on our block. It was opposite side of the street from where the that dog lived, right and.
00:28:30 Kevin
He was like man, he's like the dog came out of some old guy's house and bit a bit a 16 year old or something or 15 or 14 year old. Some kid in her teens under under adult age bit him.
00:28:41 Kevin
And he went to go just, you know, like do a report, do the questioning. The kid was alright. Like the dog was restrained.
00:28:48 Kevin
He goes and knocks on the guys door and the dog bolts out and the dog chases him down the block like he's got his gun drawn. From what I gather or his Taser drawn or whatever. Like he's like I, he's like, I gotta let the dog bite me so that the social media mob doesn't come after me and this is.
00:29:04 Kevin
Completely different cop.
00:29:05 Kevin
Than the one in the story, but it's just one of those. Like, what are you do?
00:29:11 Kevin
You have to let the dog bite you so that social media doesn't come after you. Like that's the mentality and it's like, no, what happens if you're in the moment and that dog is on another child and it's like, well, it's not biting. It's is the child losing life like.
00:29:24 Kevin
I'm not saying that that cop would have that. I I would hope that he would shoot him instantly, without obviously without like, you know, knowing where the projection of his gun is, the bullets gonna go and doesn't hit the child, you know, and we're going down rabbit holes with scenarios here, but like.
00:29:37 Kevin
The this is.
00:29:38 Kevin
A legitimate scenario the dog came after this guy and the neighbors and the old guy were able to get the dog inside and so they.
00:29:44 Kevin
He was like, but it was a close one and he was rattled. He was rattled because he was like, man, I almost had to kill a dog. Nobody wants to kill a dog. Nobody wants to go out of their way to kill a dog, right? Even if it's an aggressor, it's coming at you. You don't want to.
00:29:58 Kevin
But if you have to and you still have to live with that like I, I get it, man. I I'm not. I'm not a heartless monster. This is out here murdering dogs like I.
00:30:07 Kevin
I get it. I understand that.
00:30:10 Kevin
But you also have to understand the other side of it.
00:30:12 Kevin
And the other side of it is human life is more important than animal lives.
00:30:16 Kevin
I'm sorry if a pigeon comes down and like, pokes my kid's eye out. Every pigeon on this planet is dead, and that is my philosophy. Like you? Nope. You just declared war with humans. Pigeons are now extinct like that would be the philosophy. And that, I mean, that should be because human life is so important.
00:30:34 Kevin
Human life is so important.
00:30:36 Kevin
That one non human life that threatens it should cause the should cause an entire species to go extinct. Like that's. That's how important a human life is. So you can say, well, we don't do that. OK, well, we don't. We don't. But human life is so important that that.
00:30:51 Kevin
Is appropriate.
00:30:53 Kevin
And that's all I'm saying. That's how important human life is.
00:30:57 Kevin
Over dogs over cats, over pigeons, over lions and tigers and bears.
00:31:02 Kevin
And even whatever the omais are.
00:31:08
So.
00:31:10 Kevin
Going on a 30 minute rant about this, but yes, so like that was another situation that could have made its way on Facebook, but it didn't. It didn't didn't make it into the **** pool of the Internet.
00:31:21 Kevin
And then you go back to to Dylan.
00:31:24 Kevin
The office rental, sorry.
00:31:26 Kevin
And.
00:31:28 Kevin
And he got bit. And then the dog released after he pepper sprayed him, the dog released and then the dog reattached. From what I gather.
00:31:38 Kevin
And he did everything in his power to to, you know, like he let the dog. Like he, I don't think he let the dog bite him. I don't think he was like, well, if I'm if I want to deescalate the situation, I wanna kill this dog like that. I don't think that's what was going through his mind from what I gather, the dog got loose and went right for him. Which, hey, you don't know what's going on.
00:31:57 Kevin
You know what I mean? The dog's a tool.
00:31:59 Kevin
Right. So if the dog comes to defend the home and it's a, you know, a misuse, right, like.
00:32:04 Kevin
If my gun were used to defend my home and I realized it's not like it's the Girl Scouts, guess what? I go to jail.
00:32:12 Kevin
My gun gets dismantled.
00:32:15 Kevin
And liquefied right like.
00:32:17 Kevin
And that's what that you know what I mean? Like.
00:32:24 Kevin
I know they're doing a welfare check. I have a rough idea of who the gentleman who lives in that home is. I've. I'm pretty sure I know who it is and and if it's the same gentleman then you know like.
00:32:35 Kevin
Also, I wasn't excited about doing it. It's it's not the greatest home in the world, and from what I've gathered, he's he's had more police, you know, police post from the Police Department than than this.
00:32:48 Kevin
Normally, it's raids, arrests, executions of warrants. So I mean, it's not like he's, you know, the retired guy who helped was a co-founder of Home Hospice care or something or, you know, Community Action leader, retired 80 year old guy. No. Like, he's probably 10 years older than I am 15 years older.
00:33:07 Kevin
I am. I mean, we may be stretching 40 or 20 and it's like, OK, so you're you're 57, like, you're almost 60. Like, OK, like that's and that's stretching and it's like you you have a.
00:33:17 Kevin
You you have a very checkered past, my friend. You better put in a huge tall fence because your dogs are aggressive and they they go after people, so you gotta blind them with a privacy fence.
00:33:27 Kevin
And I'm sure the privacy fence is also for privacy of other nefarious activities. But you know, it is what it is, I mean.
00:33:33 Kevin
And then to to say like well the the owner should have control of the dog. Yes, the owner should have control of the dog. And like if my dog bit one of those people, I would also expect to get, like an appearance ticket and and see criminal fines because it was my responsibility to guard my dog from the hypothetical situation where he bit somebody and they had to put the dog down.
00:33:51 Kevin
So but for people to be like ohh 30 cops a day, they're posting statistics 30 dogs a day die at police hands. It's like.
00:34:00 Kevin
It's called line of duty like.
00:34:03 Kevin
100 doors a day. You're killed by cops like. Yeah, because cops are executing warrants and they don't answer the door. And these people are high threat level to other human life. So the door had to die. We had to kick the door down, kick it off the frame and yeah. So it's the same thing.
00:34:19 Kevin
Doing Wellness check and your dog attacks it. It's like if your shotgun grew legs and just started attacking the cop like oh, you shot my shotgun like, well, you your shotgun shouldn't just came after a cop that was doing a welfare check or Wellness check on a senior citizen. Well, the the way they described it on Facebook, it's like a senior citizen. He didn't collect the Social Security. Like, he ain't that old.
00:34:40 Kevin
I'm I'm wondering if it was just like a.
00:34:45 Kevin
You know how, like, certain things are victimless crimes? I'm wondering if it was like a a victimless crime type of welfare check like.
00:34:53 Kevin
Dad sitting there with a band around his arm or whatever. Like it's it's it's one of those things. So like and then for the cop to be vilified. And I I do appreciate all the people like swimming in the pool, the Internet that we're in defense of of Officer Ansel. So I I can't like say that like but it's still like it just it would just irks you. Is that like it's usually more than 50% of people are bashing cops this one was only like 30% but it still drives you nuts.
00:35:15 Kevin
We're just like they're bashing the police officer.
00:35:19 Kevin
He's a he's a dog. He killed the puppy. The puppy.
00:35:23 Kevin
The puppy that that.
00:35:24 Kevin
Was right next to a daycare. Get outta here.
00:35:28 Kevin
What if he had lions in the house? Like that's what I would treat an aggressive dog as like it should be treated as like this guy is keeping lions there. You should have a requirement that has like.
00:35:38 Kevin
Like like treat it like the Raptor from Jurassic Park. OK, they kept it inside of a cage inside of a caged in area inside of a larger caged in area. If you have a dog that's aggressive enough to just bolt out of the house and just bite something.
00:35:51 Kevin
I I'm sorry. You, Nick, you either need to take better precautions.
00:35:56 Kevin
Especially if you live next to daycare, you should be taking the utmost precautions cause one of those shot like killed a baby, killed a little kid like.
00:36:06 Kevin
Yeah, human life is important, but I would consider you the idiot that caused it.
00:36:11 Kevin
And like I would be asking for capital punishment against you if a kid died over your dog like.
00:36:19 Kevin
If kid just gets bit like, OK, well, you just got a criminal charge for, you know, like negligence of your dog and then your dog gets put down. Like if the kid dies.
00:36:28 Kevin
And it was just because, like ohh the dog got out of the fence like your lack of maintenance on your.
00:36:33 Kevin
Restraint for your vicious animal like.
00:36:37 Kevin
Sorry.
00:36:39 Kevin
That little kid did nothing. They weren't old enough to have a criminal.
00:36:41 Kevin
Record OK, most likely not. And and and and for a kid to die next to that daycare like. Yeah. Nope, sorry. You're getting the death penalty and your dog well already. Got it. And that's how I would view that, you know, so it's.
00:36:55 Kevin
Probably 1 of the reasons why I would never be appointed to be a judge because I would tell it how it is and I would respect human life and the way our society is going because the moral fabric is starting to incinerate away from some of these key areas like human life is important.
00:37:12 Kevin
People like look at me like, yeah, your life is is important until a dog gets killed. Yeah, we should kill all the people on the planet cause they.
00:37:19 Kevin
Killed one dog like.
00:37:22 Kevin
Like no ******* people are stupid.
00:37:30 Kevin
The moral, like the the the mental, like stupidity of certain people, especially on the Internet, when you see it like it actually undermines my case for why human life is important because you see how stupid people are and you're like.
00:37:42 Kevin
Maybe Kevin's wrong. These people are so like it's and it's and I don't want to go down one of those rabbit holes because like, there's no good that can come from that. No, we have a we have a, we have a strict standard here. It is human life is more important than animals, regardless of how stupid the people are.
00:37:57 Kevin
Regardless of how, like moral, like immoral, they're.
00:38:02 Kevin
Their checkered past with the the Police Department is.
00:38:05 Kevin
So.
00:38:07 Kevin
Leave the cops alone, guys.
00:38:13 Kevin
So I know all of you want to hear Kevin's almost 40 minute rant on on on dogs and that's going to get me into another one that will do probably later, cause this one went way longer than I expected and.
00:38:24 Kevin
I should do today, so we'll catch you guys tomorrow next time later today. Whenever on life 22.
00:38:33 Kevin
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